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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/2009/05/31/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-3973</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess my question, after checking out your bio Doug (which appears quite credible) is why on earth would you market yourself anonymously, when you have real credentials to sell yourself on? 

Doug, it may be you need to hire someone to help you market yourself effectively online. Seriously. You will do irrefutable damage to your reputation in no time if you don&#039;t do this properly. 

Hire a professional. It&#039;s will worth the money.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my question, after checking out your bio Doug (which appears quite credible) is why on earth would you market yourself anonymously, when you have real credentials to sell yourself on? </p>
<p>Doug, it may be you need to hire someone to help you market yourself effectively online. Seriously. You will do irrefutable damage to your reputation in no time if you don&#8217;t do this properly. </p>
<p>Hire a professional. It&#8217;s will worth the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Elissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL - it appears that the site has changed somewhat since my original visit...so at the moment, we appear to be arguing about what WAS, rather than what IS.

So, in fairness, here&#039;s Doug&#039;s (new and more revealing) bio page: http://thebestwaytoexercise-onlinepersonaltraining.com/IntroDougtion.html

I&#039;ve made a note of it here: http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/2009/06/27/sequel/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8211; it appears that the site has changed somewhat since my original visit&#8230;so at the moment, we appear to be arguing about what WAS, rather than what IS.</p>
<p>So, in fairness, here&#8217;s Doug&#8217;s (new and more revealing) bio page: <a href="http://thebestwaytoexercise-onlinepersonaltraining.com/IntroDougtion.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/thebestwaytoexercise-onlinepersonaltraining.com/IntroDougtion.html?referer=');">http://thebestwaytoexercise-onlinepersonaltraining.com/IntroDougtion.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve made a note of it here: <a href="http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/2009/06/27/sequel/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/2009/06/27/sequel/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elissa</title>
		<link>http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/2009/05/31/whats-in-a-name/comment-page-1/#comment-3969</link>
		<dc:creator>Elissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 02:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug: if you take a look around at the site, you&#039;ll note that our deal here is &lt;b&gt;Consumer Advocacy&lt;/b&gt;.  There&#039;s a ton of scammy stuff being marketed on the internet, and there are a number of &quot;red flags&quot; people need to look for, when evaluating the worth of an advertised product.

Sorry, but your site was flyin&#039; &#039;em.  Big time.  I work with and/or am acquainted with a number of well-known trainers who are authors of both online and print materials, such as Tom Venuto, Will Brink, Hugo Rivera and Rick Collins.  I&#039;m also on the mailing lists of authors like Charles Staley and James Villepigue.  I have books by Ian King, Charles Poliquin and Ross Enamait on my bookshelf.  Needless to state, these folks do NOT market their materials by playing &quot;guess-whoooo-I-yam&quot; games.

It&#039;s all about transparency, Doug.  Take a look at Hugo Rivera&#039;s site, for example: http://www.hugorivera.net/  On that site, it&#039;s easy to see exactly who I&#039;m dealing with.  There are articles I can inspect.  I can check out his blog, look at his comp photos, and even ask questions.  Hugo is all business - there&#039;s no bull there.  It&#039;s a great example of how to market your product in a professional way.

For the record, I am not &quot;angry&quot; with you - not one bit.  Your sales site, however, was ripe for some snark, and got both barrels.  The brain injury remark was based on the melodramatic recitation of your perseverence through various injuries and setbacks.  If you have, in fact, recovered from a serious brain injury, then I&#039;m happy to apologize for that.  However, the point of the post was that your site failed a basic test of credibility... this made your claims - which ranged from the grandiose (&quot;world renown&quot;) to the irrelevant (being a member of MENSA) - suspect.

Believe me, I understand that I have a pretty sharp &quot;pen&quot;.  If I were on the receiving end of this lecture, I&#039;d be pretty unhappy about it too.  Be aware, however, that I am criticizing your sales material: for all I know, you&#039;re a vastly better trainer than all the folks listed above.  Unfortunately, there was no way to conclude that from your site.  

There is a truism w/respect to job interviews: you never get a second chance to make a good first impression.  However, I&#039;m not an employer:  thus, I would be happy to take a look at your materials, and - if they merit it - put up a sequel to this post saying - in essence - &quot;hey, I made fun of this guy, but it turns out he&#039;s the real deal.&quot;  I&#039;ve eaten humble pie before: it&#039;s not terribly tasty but it is nutritious enough.  However &quot;angry&quot; you think I am, I have no problem with trying to be fair and &quot;giving a guy a chance&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug: if you take a look around at the site, you&#8217;ll note that our deal here is <b>Consumer Advocacy</b>.  There&#8217;s a ton of scammy stuff being marketed on the internet, and there are a number of &#8220;red flags&#8221; people need to look for, when evaluating the worth of an advertised product.</p>
<p>Sorry, but your site was flyin&#8217; &#8216;em.  Big time.  I work with and/or am acquainted with a number of well-known trainers who are authors of both online and print materials, such as Tom Venuto, Will Brink, Hugo Rivera and Rick Collins.  I&#8217;m also on the mailing lists of authors like Charles Staley and James Villepigue.  I have books by Ian King, Charles Poliquin and Ross Enamait on my bookshelf.  Needless to state, these folks do NOT market their materials by playing &#8220;guess-whoooo-I-yam&#8221; games.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all about transparency, Doug.  Take a look at Hugo Rivera&#8217;s site, for example: <a href="http://www.hugorivera.net/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.hugorivera.net/?referer=');">http://www.hugorivera.net/</a>  On that site, it&#8217;s easy to see exactly who I&#8217;m dealing with.  There are articles I can inspect.  I can check out his blog, look at his comp photos, and even ask questions.  Hugo is all business &#8211; there&#8217;s no bull there.  It&#8217;s a great example of how to market your product in a professional way.</p>
<p>For the record, I am not &#8220;angry&#8221; with you &#8211; not one bit.  Your sales site, however, was ripe for some snark, and got both barrels.  The brain injury remark was based on the melodramatic recitation of your perseverence through various injuries and setbacks.  If you have, in fact, recovered from a serious brain injury, then I&#8217;m happy to apologize for that.  However, the point of the post was that your site failed a basic test of credibility&#8230; this made your claims &#8211; which ranged from the grandiose (&#8221;world renown&#8221;) to the irrelevant (being a member of MENSA) &#8211; suspect.</p>
<p>Believe me, I understand that I have a pretty sharp &#8220;pen&#8221;.  If I were on the receiving end of this lecture, I&#8217;d be pretty unhappy about it too.  Be aware, however, that I am criticizing your sales material: for all I know, you&#8217;re a vastly better trainer than all the folks listed above.  Unfortunately, there was no way to conclude that from your site.  </p>
<p>There is a truism w/respect to job interviews: you never get a second chance to make a good first impression.  However, I&#8217;m not an employer:  thus, I would be happy to take a look at your materials, and &#8211; if they merit it &#8211; put up a sequel to this post saying &#8211; in essence &#8211; &#8220;hey, I made fun of this guy, but it turns out he&#8217;s the real deal.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve eaten humble pie before: it&#8217;s not terribly tasty but it is nutritious enough.  However &#8220;angry&#8221; you think I am, I have no problem with trying to be fair and &#8220;giving a guy a chance&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was always taught that finger pointing isn&#039;t too professional... not to mention the jibe about my brain injury; that really hurts! :-(

Granted, I can understand your &quot;anger&quot; if a person was making claims that they couldn&#039;t substantiate, but give a guy a chance...  :-)

Doug

P.S. And regarding my figures, I&#039;ll quote Ben Stiller with, &quot;I&#039;d say strong... to quite strong.&quot; (name the movie)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was always taught that finger pointing isn&#8217;t too professional&#8230; not to mention the jibe about my brain injury; that really hurts! <img src='http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Granted, I can understand your &#8220;anger&#8221; if a person was making claims that they couldn&#8217;t substantiate, but give a guy a chance&#8230;  <img src='http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Doug</p>
<p>P.S. And regarding my figures, I&#8217;ll quote Ben Stiller with, &#8220;I&#8217;d say strong&#8230; to quite strong.&#8221; (name the movie)</p>
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		<title>By: Elissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I shouldn&#039;t HAVE to try to figure out who you are.   It&#039;s YOUR job to present yourself and your credentials to me, as a member of the public seeking useful fitness info.  It isn&#039;t MY job to &quot;take the time to know&quot; you.  It&#039;s YOUR job to introduce yourself to me, and present some solid justifications as to why I should spend my money on your materials.

I cannot speak to the overall success or failure of your &quot;stealthy&quot; marketing approach, as I&#039;m not privy to your sales figures.  But it certainly didn&#039;t work well with me.  However, if you come up with a sales page that&#039;s a little lighter on teh cute, and a little heavier on the professionalism, then who knows?  Maybe I just might like you. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I shouldn&#8217;t HAVE to try to figure out who you are.   It&#8217;s YOUR job to present yourself and your credentials to me, as a member of the public seeking useful fitness info.  It isn&#8217;t MY job to &#8220;take the time to know&#8221; you.  It&#8217;s YOUR job to introduce yourself to me, and present some solid justifications as to why I should spend my money on your materials.</p>
<p>I cannot speak to the overall success or failure of your &#8220;stealthy&#8221; marketing approach, as I&#8217;m not privy to your sales figures.  But it certainly didn&#8217;t work well with me.  However, if you come up with a sales page that&#8217;s a little lighter on teh cute, and a little heavier on the professionalism, then who knows?  Maybe I just might like you. <img src='http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Doug Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

It&#039;s easy to bash somebody that you don&#039;t take the time to know.  It would have been quite easy to figure out who I am... no big deal though.

I was just trying a new approach with my marketing... using a more &quot;stealthy&quot; approach.  Funny thing is, it doesn&#039;t work as well.  :-)

There are links on the bottom of each page on my website that you can click to see who I am and what I&#039;m all about.

If you don&#039;t get your hopes up too much, you just might like me. :-)

Doug Jones, BS, MA, CSCS
Exercise Physiologist, Certified
Strength &amp; Conditioning Specialist

www.TheBestWayToExercise.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to bash somebody that you don&#8217;t take the time to know.  It would have been quite easy to figure out who I am&#8230; no big deal though.</p>
<p>I was just trying a new approach with my marketing&#8230; using a more &#8220;stealthy&#8221; approach.  Funny thing is, it doesn&#8217;t work as well.  <img src='http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There are links on the bottom of each page on my website that you can click to see who I am and what I&#8217;m all about.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t get your hopes up too much, you just might like me. <img src='http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Doug Jones, BS, MA, CSCS<br />
Exercise Physiologist, Certified<br />
Strength &amp; Conditioning Specialist</p>
<p><a href="http://www.TheBestWayToExercise.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.TheBestWayToExercise.com?referer=');">http://www.TheBestWayToExercise.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind a name... don&#039;t be anonymous just make one up and add the Dr. designation and your all set!

Did you know that Dr.George L. Bingham states that by using the Accu-trim Bead you will lose 30, 40 or even 50lbs without diet and exercise!! You just have to place this wee little magnet on your ear lobe and voila the bead &quot;gently stimulates the acupressure points that trigger weight loss&quot;!

He&#039;s a Dr. don&#039;t you know - he can&#039;t lie - you should trust him - he&#039;s even wearing a white smock and has a stethoscope around his neck!! 

GAWD!!! I&#039;m amazed at what comes in the mail!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind a name&#8230; don&#8217;t be anonymous just make one up and add the Dr. designation and your all set!</p>
<p>Did you know that Dr.George L. Bingham states that by using the Accu-trim Bead you will lose 30, 40 or even 50lbs without diet and exercise!! You just have to place this wee little magnet on your ear lobe and voila the bead &#8220;gently stimulates the acupressure points that trigger weight loss&#8221;!</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a Dr. don&#8217;t you know &#8211; he can&#8217;t lie &#8211; you should trust him &#8211; he&#8217;s even wearing a white smock and has a stethoscope around his neck!! </p>
<p>GAWD!!! I&#8217;m amazed at what comes in the mail!</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, you guys rock!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, you guys rock!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 02:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another beauty post, Elissa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another beauty post, Elissa!</p>
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