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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;Test&#8221; Test: Final Results</title>
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		<title>By: Elissa</title>
		<link>http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/2008/06/15/the-test-test-results/comment-page-1/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>Elissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you get from the lab is your values, alongside a &quot;reference range&quot; that represent values for that parameter that are considered to be within normal limits.  Values that lie outside that range are flagged as &quot;high&quot; or &quot;low&quot; - and certain calculations, such as CHD risk, may be done, but that&#039;s as much as you get from the lab.  

What you do if a deficiency exists is going to depend on what the problem is.  T is a good example.  If John&#039;s T had been at or below 241 ng/dl (low end of the reference range of 241 - 827 ng/dl), then he&#039;d likely be a candidate for hormone replacement therapy.  Needless to state, there would almost certainly be symptoms too: a man presenting with a healthy libido and active sex life with a T in the gutter would probably be a candidate for a retest vs. a prescription for Androgel or Testim.

The bigger problem is where values are suboptimal - that is, you may be in the normal range, but not up to snuff.  Medically, you may be SOL...in this day of &quot;managed care,&quot; &quot;you&#039;ll manage&quot; is often the way it falls out.  But there may be lifestyle adjustments that can be made (such as weight loss or diet/exercise) or supplements that could help (such as DHEA if DHEA-S is low) - depends on what it is.

There&#039;s a pretty thorough article here: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/may2004_report_blood_01.htm that&#039;s a decent place to start on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you get from the lab is your values, alongside a &#8220;reference range&#8221; that represent values for that parameter that are considered to be within normal limits.  Values that lie outside that range are flagged as &#8220;high&#8221; or &#8220;low&#8221; &#8211; and certain calculations, such as CHD risk, may be done, but that&#8217;s as much as you get from the lab.  </p>
<p>What you do if a deficiency exists is going to depend on what the problem is.  T is a good example.  If John&#8217;s T had been at or below 241 ng/dl (low end of the reference range of 241 &#8211; 827 ng/dl), then he&#8217;d likely be a candidate for hormone replacement therapy.  Needless to state, there would almost certainly be symptoms too: a man presenting with a healthy libido and active sex life with a T in the gutter would probably be a candidate for a retest vs. a prescription for Androgel or Testim.</p>
<p>The bigger problem is where values are suboptimal &#8211; that is, you may be in the normal range, but not up to snuff.  Medically, you may be SOL&#8230;in this day of &#8220;managed care,&#8221; &#8220;you&#8217;ll manage&#8221; is often the way it falls out.  But there may be lifestyle adjustments that can be made (such as weight loss or diet/exercise) or supplements that could help (such as DHEA if DHEA-S is low) &#8211; depends on what it is.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a pretty thorough article here: <a href="http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/may2004_report_blood_01.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/may2004_report_blood_01.htm?referer=');">http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2004/may2004_report_blood_01.htm</a> that&#8217;s a decent place to start on the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I&#039;m more curious.  So when you get a test result, does the lab give any interpretation of what the results mean or recommendations of waht to do about it? 

 You mention all those items above, but if there is a defiency in any of them how does a person know what to do next about it?   I know a little about the subject but not enough at this time.  Can you recommend something or someplace (unbiased of course) that laymen can get educated on this matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;m more curious.  So when you get a test result, does the lab give any interpretation of what the results mean or recommendations of waht to do about it? </p>
<p> You mention all those items above, but if there is a defiency in any of them how does a person know what to do next about it?   I know a little about the subject but not enough at this time.  Can you recommend something or someplace (unbiased of course) that laymen can get educated on this matter?</p>
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		<title>By: Elissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were a couple of good things about doing the trial...the big one was just getting the blood work done.  It&#039;s one of those important things, yet it&#039;s pretty easy to put off.  But you should know where your body is at w/regards to hormones.  We did the works: T, free T, DHEA-S, estradiol, TSH, T3, T4 (not to mention all the blood chemistry, cholesterol, PSA, c-reactive protein, homocysteine, etc.).  He came out of it looking pretty good - it&#039;s nice to have that reassurance.

The second was actually doing a sort of &quot;average guy in the trenches&quot; test.  While I don&#039;t hang around on the various forums, I&#039;ve read enough to know just how common tribulus, etc. is in people&#039;s supp stacks - esp. when they&#039;re doing PCT.  It&#039;s frustrating to get any decent info: it&#039;s all of the &quot;I&#039;ve got more wood so I know my T is up&quot; kind of stuff.  Well, we got more wood too ( ;-) ) - but T was definitely not affected.  It&#039;s an n=1 observation, for sure, but this is as much reliable clinical data as I&#039;ve ever seen - lol.

So all in all, it was an interesting experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were a couple of good things about doing the trial&#8230;the big one was just getting the blood work done.  It&#8217;s one of those important things, yet it&#8217;s pretty easy to put off.  But you should know where your body is at w/regards to hormones.  We did the works: T, free T, DHEA-S, estradiol, TSH, T3, T4 (not to mention all the blood chemistry, cholesterol, PSA, c-reactive protein, homocysteine, etc.).  He came out of it looking pretty good &#8211; it&#8217;s nice to have that reassurance.</p>
<p>The second was actually doing a sort of &#8220;average guy in the trenches&#8221; test.  While I don&#8217;t hang around on the various forums, I&#8217;ve read enough to know just how common tribulus, etc. is in people&#8217;s supp stacks &#8211; esp. when they&#8217;re doing PCT.  It&#8217;s frustrating to get any decent info: it&#8217;s all of the &#8220;I&#8217;ve got more wood so I know my T is up&#8221; kind of stuff.  Well, we got more wood too ( <img src='http://blog.ultimatefatburner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) &#8211; but T was definitely not affected.  It&#8217;s an n=1 observation, for sure, but this is as much reliable clinical data as I&#8217;ve ever seen &#8211; lol.</p>
<p>So all in all, it was an interesting experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have followed you on this first &quot;test&quot; trial.  It will indeed be interesting to see how it goes during the next stage after which the body has (for the most part) adapted to the initial benefits of consistent training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have followed you on this first &#8220;test&#8221; trial.  It will indeed be interesting to see how it goes during the next stage after which the body has (for the most part) adapted to the initial benefits of consistent training.</p>
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